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RTE Issues

Not sure if you noticed but I'm newer to wikis so i use the RTE to do most of my edits, i don't really like source and i doubt i can uses it remotely as effectively. I'll try to clean up anything extra the editor creates, although i'm not sure what your referring to with the indent? Everything looked alright to me, unless you mean how i left it indented after the css? Gracey91 05:44, September 24, 2011 (UTC)
It wasn’t me who fixed what the RTE did, it was Rappy. (See here.) It broke some paragraphing and stuff. Thing is, and this is meant as encouragement, we never really can become good admins until we master working in source mode. It’s the only way we really understand what’s going on behind the curtain. It’s the only way we can be certain how to fix things, write/edit templates, etc. Face-grinSpikeToronto 07:43, September 24, 2011 (UTC)
P.S. I had not noticed that you were new to wikis. — SpikeToronto 07:43, September 24, 2011 (UTC)
I believe i can use source quite well and i do often use it. Its just i find the RTE easier to read most of the time as it removes un-needed code, like sigs. It is also a lot easier to use to add pics to pages, as you don't need to upload them, then copy the name over. Would using source to write the messages fix the problem? Gracey91 08:29, September 24, 2011 (UTC)
It lessens it, but doesn’t eliminate it. Someone who works only in source mode, but has not disabled visual mode in his preferences, can still have those totally unintended, RTE-generated edits occur (not as much as with the previous RTE … I think). As regards pics, we (and several other, more notable wikis) prefer that the upload not be done via the editor, but rather be done with Special:Upload because then the appropriate copyright template gets attached to the image. As for reading one’s input before saving it, I always finish off by proofreading (however many times) through the WYSIWYG Preview window, no matter how many times I may have proofed it in the source edit window. One day, soon I hope Face-grin, you’ll be confident enough in your skills to leave visual mode behind. Thanks! — SpikeToronto 08:48, September 24, 2011 (UTC)

Once i finish with all the pics on my wiki i might. I add 100-150 pics at a time to a page and its just too much time with source. And you can add the correct template using RTE, unless you use custom ones? I normally add the "took them myself" template to my pics. Gracey91 08:53, September 24, 2011 (UTC)


Congratulations, I have just closed your request for rights as approved and made you a new Testing Administrator. Take a look at the Administrators' how-to guide and the testing policy if you haven't read those already. Also, if you don't know where to begin or test on, taking a look at these suggestions may be useful. If you have any questions or if you need help with something, get in touch on my talk page.   — Jeff G. ツ 11:49, September 24, 2011 (UTC)

Deletion policy: updating

Hey Gracey! You asked me the other day if there was anything you could help out on, so I have something for you. At Admin Tools Wiki:Deletion policy/draft, you will find a space set aside to work on the wiki’s deletion policy. Right now it is just a copy of Admin Tools Wiki:Deletion policy as at 05:28, September 26, 2011 (EDT). However, we need to flesh it out some. The first thing we could do is add a section regarding deletions within userspace. You can find all you need at User talk:Head.Boy.Hog#Signature, if you’re interested. Thanks! — SpikeToronto 09:35, September 26, 2011 (UTC)

No worries, i'll see what can come up with. Gracey91 10:15, September 26, 2011 (UTC)
Hey wasn't sure exactly what direction you want to head in so i came up with 2 which are here and here. If thats not the sort of thing you want, you'll need to give me more of a direction to work in. I added question marks in some places I had no idea about. Additionally, I think the deletion policy should include the deletion criteria or links to pages with the respective criteria. Let me know what you think. Gracey91 14:34, September 26, 2011 (UTC)
For the userpage component, I forgot to clarify in my initial posting here that the only material there that we need to include in ATW:DP is my reply to the other members. As for the rest of your posting immediately above, however much additional material you think is needed is fine by me. Two more things I forgot to mention
  • Our re-creation warning (the little red popup box) is slightly different than at other wikis. Normally, wikis only permit re-creating a page that has been deleted if it is signicantly different than the previously deleted page. At ATW, if the re-creation is for testing purposes, then it need not be different, so long as it is in the testing namespace.
  • There is no requirement to delete pages in the testing namespace simply because no one has tested on them in awhile. They do not go stale. It is good if there are a number of pages in there for users to practise on.
I’ll go and look at your drafts now! Thanks! — SpikeToronto 21:31, September 26, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry it has taken me so long to follow up on this. I want to start proofing them. Could you tell me what each version is: sandbox, sandbox1, sandbox2? Thanks! — SpikeToronto 22:03, October 26, 2011 (UTC)

I made a few different ones. But just read Sanbox1 and follow the criteria for speedy deletion link. I wasn't so sure on the proposed deletion criteria that should be used here so i left that blank. I hope it helps. Gracey91 (talk contribs count) 12:08, October 28, 2011 (UTC)

Ambox notice UPDATE:  Gracey, I’m finally reviewing your draft deletion policies. There’s some good stuff in there. I’m going to start rolling it into the master draft during this week. Thanks again! — SpikeToronto 20:04, January 30, 2012 (UTC)

IRC Chat

G, you misunderstood. My comment was meant to convey that I was not busy and could chat. Face-wink Thanks! — SpikeToronto 07:56, September 27, 2011 (UTC)


Hi Gracey! Were you able to get the SmartSig working for you? Face-confused Thanks! — SpikeToronto 08:58, September 30, 2011 (UTC)

I read more about it and worked out its not what i want. Its the same amount of work anyway.
 Gracey91 talk  contribs count 09:00,9/30/2011 


Hey Gracey! Regarding Template:Editnotices/Namespace/File/doc. That template page is part of a large editnotice sub-system that I’m wanting to implement here at ATW. I work on it from time to time. Unfortunately, I’ve put it on hold for now since I do not know if it will function under ArticleComments 2.0 (aka, MessageWalls) or if it’ll even make sense in that environment. So, if you see any pages relating to editnotices with red links and stuff, just pass them by for now. Thanks! — SpikeToronto 23:28, October 17, 2011 (UTC)

No worries, I'll leave all talk page related template and docs. Also I seen a message on the community test wiki from a staff member saying they are working on adding a section for headers. So hopefully that will be implemented.  Gracey91 talk  contribs count 04:45,10/18/2011 


Hey Gracey! Regarding this earlier conversation, unbeknownst to any of us here, Extension:AbuseFilter has been activated. Still want to set it up? And, provide some sort of help page and policy page? Thanks! — SpikeToronto 02:12, October 26, 2011 (UTC)

Hey, cool. Yes i still want to test and yeah I'm willing to write some policies but you have to remember, I don't know that much about them. That's why i want to test. Additionally you are going to need to work out what can be tested and how it can be tested. Also someone will need to create testing pages in all namespaces.
  • With the testing will swearing/spam/vandalism be allowed for testing the filters?
  • Will we be allowed to enable the filters on the wiki or just batch test them?
  • Would users be allowed to apply for a bot flag for a non admin bot to help test?
  • What settings will users be allowed to use? Such as, can they set disallow or only warning?
  • Some kind of limit is going to be needed if the filters are allowed to be enabled, as they only have a "condition limit" that can be used.
I seriously recommend you contact staff and make sure you can't be blocked by the filters. A simple mistake in an otherwise perfect filter can block all people. And like i mentioned previously it can remove rights. Last off, I think you should see if you can get access to the abusefilters on wikipedia. I have seen requests for this before that were approved. This is all i can think of at the moment, but I'm sure more will come to me soon. Gracey91 (talk contribs count) 02:42, October 26, 2011 (UTC)
You’ve given me a lot to think about! Face-smile Thank youSpikeToronto 03:00, October 26, 2011 (UTC)
I have thought more about it. I need a decision to be made before i can really start on the policy. I will need to know how we can test them, I see 2 options:
  • Use Batch Testing, this allows you to test any filter against an accounts previous edits or the 100 most recent edits. So an account could be made, and someone make swearing/vandalism etc. edits. So people wouldn't need to make there own. The issue with this is, we can't account for all the types of tests people will want to make. Also many people will want to see it work first hand.
  • Then there is live testing, so a filter is activated and the person attempts to trip the filter with another account. This would mean people would need to be able to vandalism/spam pages on the wiki. I think giving bot flags would help to hide the edits. I also thought maybe something like the cratmessage could be duplicated to hide these vandalism/spam edits from view. The issue with this is if people use the wrong settings on the filter. As you can see you can set it to disallow, block, revoke, tag and the most dangerous of all, block the /16 range the user come from.
This is the main issue i see, once this is decided the rest is pretty easy. Also remember if staff can't remove the condition limit, live testing may be to risky unless some kind of timetable was set up. Even then the wiki runs the risk of not have enough edits made on that day to allow testing. When ever you get to it is fine, it will take me a little while to write the help. Gracey91 (talk contribs count) 12:40, October 28, 2011 (UTC)

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Test account

Hi Gracey! For some of your testing, especially with the edit filter, you might want to create a test account that has no user rights. For example, it might allow you to more accurately test when the filter prevents autopromotion to autoconfirmed. To create such an account, go to Special:CreateAccount. If you create one, please use the name User:Gracey91TEST. Face-smile Thanks!SpikeToronto 03:02, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

P.S. User:Gracey91TEST will not be the same as the account for bot/awb work. For that you should once again visit Special:CreateAccount and create User:Gracey91BOT (for a Pywikipediabot-based bot) and/or User:Gracey91AWB for an AWB account. Thanks! — SpikeToronto 03:09, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

Hey good thinking. I happen to already have a bot account, as you know. The issue is my bot has flags on other wikis so I would prefer to use that account opposed to a new account. The name is close anyway, its "Gracey91s bot". Would it be acceptable to use my current bot account? Gracey91 (talk contribs count) 05:36, November 7, 2011 (UTC)
Yeah, that’s fine, so long as it as Gracey and bot in it. Thanks! — SpikeToronto 20:52, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

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